repost of Zoologist's from AFF site late July Posted on November 25, 2004 at 17:44:14 by aspieknee
posted by "Zoologist", as an outside guest not a member, in a now deleted topic on AFF's site, late July, and reposted here on grounds of journalistic public interest now that I have noticed Amy has wiped from the AFF site the topic where it appeared, though Amy told me in our argument on July 10 that back posts on AFF are never deleted! To remind all readers:
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I am not working on behalf of Aspieknee and he has not given me authority to discuss this. It's just that I feel the need to come to the defense of others that AFF seems to be coming down on too harshly.
As Strict and I have shown and demonstrated above, there is no proof yet that Aspieknee did in fact write the letter that you acuse him of writing, and even if he did, he did so before he started his campaign against AFF. Could it be that the use of AFF in that letter was simply an unintentional error of judgement on his part, meaning that he took AFF's idea of advancing the cause of AS people a bit too far and simply because he was a member, signed himself with AFF underneath to indicate his associateion with AFF?
Additionally, I have demonstrated that posts have been deleted in another thread ONLY by the site owners/moderators and not by the posters so that site owners may make things appear to be in their favor, and Then Agian has shown concern that you are checking the IP addresses of those who post.
In THIS thread, my post that you respond to above was in fact posted twice. The second time with a correction, yet the revised post is gone and the first remains. Who deleted the second post? I did not. No one else who is a member can. Therefore someone at AFF did. Even though the correction is insignifcant, that is not the point. the point was that a correction had been made and no one will ever see it or know what it was because it is now gone -and without authorization from me.
To suggest that noticing IP addresses is just "an Aspie trait" strikes me as curious as that is more or less the same thing as memorizing people's social security numbers, or other forms of personal information. Isn't that rather discourteous to those whom are entrusting such personal information with you?
Can any of this be a good thing for members of this forum? Someone needs to come to the defense of those who migh t be getting "hoodwinked." Strict, I and Then Again appear to have done so.
The fact that I am a moderator of Aspergian Island and have my own Group has absolutely NOTHING to do with it even though you imply quite the opposite, which I find disturbing. Crucibelle is perfectly capable of promoting her own site and I do not in any way speak for her or Aspergian island, and as I stated on my Group that it should be regarded as secondary importance to others and that it will remain open indefinitely or as long as it's needed, this should imply that I have no agenda of advancing my Group.
Even if I was not affiliated with any particular website or group, I would still raise the same objections, and you must admit, since people are being accused of doing things without solid evidence, (whilst AFF does the same thing and justifies it's reasons for doing so whilst still pursuing an investigation against the person it accuses) since posts are being deleted without the members noticing, since IP addresses are being scruitinized in alarming and uncomfortable detail, an external perspective is called for to make members aware of what is going on.
Do they want to be accused -without firm proof- of doing something that they might not have done, especially when, in one instance AFF appears to have done the very same crime that they are accusing one of it's former members of doing against them? Do they want their posts edited or deleted without permission if their relevant points are not deemed acceptable -politically speaking- to AFF administrators? Do they want their IP addresses scruitinized and thus be left wondering what other sorts of background information AFF is digging up on them?
Lastly, have you noticed the continuing list of people who are objecting to what is being done here and your replies, first with various reasons/excuses for doing what you are doing, and then, when excuses run out: "You are entitled to your op inion, but please dont be argumentative and so critical, we are capable of making our own decisions, as I'm sure you are at Aspergia Island."
This suggests inflexibility to the viewpoints of both members and guests, especially when the points that are brought to your attention are NOT frivolous but valid, being that they concern the possibility of being falsely accused of things, being censored, and having their background information checked on without cause.
I did not at all intend to be so vocal, but now I see no other choice. If you can provide some valid answers to these points, then I shall try to refrain from posting here further.
Please be aware that I feel that this site is as valid as any other and that people should be allowed to choose for themselves where they wish to post, but I see serious cause for concerns here for anyone thinking of posting because they have not been made aware of what appears to be truly going on here and so their decisions may be made on only partial information.
Zoologist
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